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Four more polls have been released since my last prediction on September 2. What they are beginning to show is that the Liberals have now overtaken the Tories for top spot in the province. Usually when the Liberals gain in the polls, it comes at the expense of the NDP, but the NDP and the Tories are holding firm in their numbers, and the Liberal gain appears to come from a collapse in the Green vote.
This projection will only look at the two most recent polls taken this past weekend. One by Nanos Research and one by Ipsos Reid:
| Nanos | Ipsos-Reid | Avg | Change |
Liberal | 38 (+6) | 38 (+2) | 38 | (+8) |
PC | 35 (-1) | 37 (-1) | 36 | n/c |
NDP | 24 (+1) | 24 (+1) | 24 | -1 |
Greens | 3 (-1) | 1 (-2) | 2 | -5 |
The change is from their most recent polls, Nanos just 2 weeks ago (Aug 30-Sept 1) while the Ipsos-Reid poll change is from their last poll, six weeks ago. The Avg is the number used for my projection, while the change is from the numbers used in my last projection on September 2.
The public appears to be scared of the possibility of Hudak government, but NDP supporters seem enthusiastic about the party's high poll numbers not to jump ship. The non existent Green campaign has therefore resulted in their voters fleeing to the Liberals. Or so I can only guess! The current Liberal surge comes as a bit of a surprise to me, but then again, McGuinty pulled it off in 2007.
As mentioned, I skipped two polls from 2 weeks ago. One was a Nanos poll, and one was by Harris Decimawhich showed an unbelievable 11 point lead for the Liberals. Methinks it's an outlier.
Seat by seat projection
Riding | Lib | PC | NDP | Grn | Projected winner |
Ajax—Pickering | 46 | 38 | 13 | 3 | Joe Dickson |
Algoma—Manitoulin | 40 | 16 | 42 | 2 | Michael Mantha |
Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale | 37 | 43 | 17 | 3 | Donna Skelly |
Barrie | 29 | 48 | 19 | 4 | Rod Jackson |
Beaches—East York | 25 | 18 | 50 | 7 | Michael Prue |
Bramalea—Gore—Malton | 44 | 28 | 27 | 1 | Kuldip Kular |
Brampton West | 45 | 39 | 15 | 1 | Vic Dhillon |
Brampton—Springdale | 45 | 35 | 18 | 2 | Linda Jeffrey |
Brant | 45 | 33 | 21 | 1 | Dave Levac |
Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound | 30 | 48 | 15 | 7 | Bill Walker |
Burlington | 33 | 47 | 18 | 2 | Jane McKenna |
Cambridge | 28 | 46 | 24 | 2 | Rob Leone |
Carleton—Mississippi Mills | 37 | 48 | 13 | 2 | Jack MacLaren |
Chatham-Kent—Essex | 31 | 44 | 23 | 2 | Rick Nicholls |
Davenport | 38 | 12 | 48 | 2 | Jonah Schein |
Don Valley East | 46 | 30 | 23 | 1 | Michael Coteau |
Don Valley West | 49 | 39 | 9 | 3 | Kathleen Wynne |
Dufferin—Caledon | 27 | 50 | 11 | 12 | Sylvia Jones |
Durham | 30 | 48 | 19 | 3 | John O'Toole |
Eglinton—Lawrence | 53 | 37 | 9 | 1 | Mike Colle |
Elgin—Middlesex—London | 29 | 48 | 22 | 1 | Jeff Yurek |
Essex | 27 | 39 | 33 | 1 | Dave Brister |
Etobicoke Centre | 50 | 36 | 13 | 1 | Donna Cansfield |
Etobicoke North | 51 | 26 | 22 | 1 | Shafiq Qaadri |
Etobicoke—Lakeshore | 44 | 35 | 18 | 3 | Laurel Broten |
Glengarry—Prescott—Russell | 40 | 44 | 14 | 2 | Marlissa Gosselin |
Guelph | 48 | 29 | 15 | 8 | Liz Sandals |
Haldimand—Norfolk | 24 | 60 | 15 | 1 | Toby Barrett |
Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock | 37 | 47 | 13 | 3 | Laurie Scott |
Halton | 37 | 47 | 15 | 1 | Ted Chudleigh |
Hamilton Centre | 26 | 19 | 51 | 4 | Andrea Horwath |
Hamilton East—Stoney Creek | 29 | 29 | 41 | 1 | Paul Miller |
Hamilton Mountain | 33 | 28 | 38 | 1 | Monique Taylor |
Huron—Bruce | 42 | 36 | 21 | 1 | Carol Mitchell |
Kenora—Rainy River | 32 | 30 | 37 | 1 | Sarah Campbell |
Kingston and the Islands | 47 | 30 | 21 | 2 | John Gerretsen |
Kitchener Centre | 45 | 33 | 20 | 2 | John Milloy |
Kitchener—Conestoga | 38 | 42 | 18 | 2 | Michael Harris |
Kitchener—Waterloo | 32 | 47 | 18 | 3 | Elizabeth Witmer |
Lambton—Kent—Middlesex | 42 | 39 | 18 | 1 | Maria Van Bommel |
Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington | 35 | 43 | 19 | 3 | Randy Hiller |
Leeds—Grenville | 27 | 55 | 15 | 3 | Steve Clark |
London North Centre | 44 | 29 | 23 | 4 | Deb Matthews |
London West | 49 | 32 | 18 | 1 | Chris Bentley |
London—Fanshawe | 38 | 30 | 31 | 1 | Khalil Ramal |
Markham—Unionville | 50 | 30 | 19 | 1 | Michael Chan |
Mississauga East—Cooksville | 50 | 33 | 16 | 1 | Dipika Damerla |
Mississauga South | 47 | 41 | 11 | 1 | Charles Sousa |
Mississauga—Brampton South | 46 | 37 | 16 | 1 | Armit Mangat |
Mississauga—Erindale | 45 | 39 | 15 | 1 | Harinder Takhar |
Mississauga—Streetsville | 47 | 37 | 14 | 2 | Bob Delaney |
Nepean—Carleton | 33 | 49 | 14 | 4 | Lisa MacLeod |
Newmarket—Aurora | 37 | 47 | 13 | 3 | Frank Klees |
Niagara Falls | 45 | 36 | 17 | 2 | Kim Craitor |
Niagara West—Glanbrook | 24 | 55 | 19 | 2 | Tim Hudak |
Nickel Belt | 28 | 20 | 51 | 1 | France Gelinas |
Nipissing | 37 | 46 | 16 | 1 | Victor Fedeli |
Northumberland—Quinte West | 42 | 37 | 19 | 2 | Lou Rinaldi |
Oak Ridges—Markham | 41 | 43 | 15 | 1 | Farid Wassef |
Oakville | 46 | 40 | 12 | 2 | Kevin Flynn |
Oshawa | 20 | 43 | 36 | 1 | Jerry Ouellette |
Ottawa Centre | 34 | 21 | 40 | 5 | Anil Naidoo |
Ottawa South | 49 | 31 | 17 | 3 | Dalton McGuinty |
Ottawa West—Nepean | 44 | 37 | 17 | 2 | Bob Chiarelli |
Ottawa—Orleans | 49 | 37 | 12 | 1 | Phil McNeely |
Ottawa—Vanier | 48 | 23 | 25 | 4 | Madeleine Meilleur |
Oxford | 27 | 52 | 19 | 2 | Ernie Hardeman |
Parkdale—High Park | 29 | 15 | 52 | 4 | Cheri DiNovo |
Parry Sound—Muskoka | 22 | 49 | 22 | 7 | Norm Miller |
Perth—Wellington | 43 | 40 | 14 | 3 | John Wilkinson |
Peterborough | 44 | 30 | 24 | 2 | Jeff Leal |
Pickering—Scarborough East | 47 | 34 | 17 | 2 | Tracey MacCharles |
Prince Edward—Hastings | 40 | 38 | 21 | 1 | Leona Dombrowsky |
Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke | 21 | 66 | 12 | 1 | John Yakabuski |
Richmond Hill | 45 | 38 | 15 | 2 | Reza Moridi |
St. Catharines | 44 | 35 | 19 | 2 | Jim Bradley |
St. Paul's | 46 | 29 | 20 | 5 | Eric Hoskins |
Sarnia—Lambton | 26 | 46 | 27 | 1 | Bob Bailey |
Sault Ste. Marie | 54 | 17 | 28 | 1 | David Orazietti |
Scarborough Centre | 45 | 29 | 25 | 1 | Brad Duguid |
Scarborough Southwest | 42 | 24 | 32 | 2 | Lorenzo Berardinetti |
Scarborough—Agincourt | 53 | 28 | 18 | 1 | Soo Wong |
Scarborough—Guildwood | 43 | 31 | 25 | 1 | Margarett Best |
Scarborough—Rouge River | 48 | 22 | 29 | 1 | Bas Balkissoon |
Simcoe North | 27 | 53 | 16 | 4 | Garfield Dunlop |
Simcoe—Grey | 24 | 55 | 14 | 7 | Jim Wilson |
Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry | 31 | 52 | 16 | 1 | Jim McDonnell |
Sudbury | 52 | 15 | 32 | 1 | Rick Bartolucci |
Thornhill | 36 | 53 | 10 | 1 | Peter Shurman |
Thunder Bay—Atikokan | 33 | 24 | 42 | 1 | Mary Kozorys |
Thunder Bay—Superior North | 44 | 13 | 42 | 1 | Michael Gravelle |
Timikaming—Cochrane | 36 | 18 | 45 | 1 | John Vanthof |
Timmins—James Bay | 30 | 23 | 46 | 1 | Gilles Bisson |
Toronto Centre | 47 | 21 | 27 | 5 | Glen Murray |
Toronto—Danforth | 29 | 12 | 53 | 6 | Peter Tabuns |
Trinity—Spadina | 35 | 15 | 46 | 4 | Rasario Marchese |
Vaughan | 54 | 34 | 11 | 1 | Greg Sorbara |
Welland | 27 | 33 | 39 | 1 | Cindy Forster |
Wellington—Halton Hills | 29 | 56 | 11 | 4 | Ted Arnott |
Whitby—Oshawa | 28 | 49 | 20 | 3 | Christine Elliott |
Willowdale | 46 | 37 | 15 | 2 | David Zimmer |
Windsor West | 27 | 25 | 47 | 1 | Helmi Charif |
Windsor—Tecumseh | 45 | 25 | 29 | 1 | Dwight Duncan |
York Centre | 44 | 41 | 14 | 1 | Monte Kwinter |
York South—Weston | 42 | 15 | 42 | 1 | Paul Ferriera or Laura Albanese |
York West | 54 | 17 | 28 | 1 | Mario Sergio |
York—Simcoe | 27 | 53 | 17 | 3 | Julia Munro |
Seat changes since last projection
I'd like to firstly thank those who emailed me or commented on my last blog post, their thoughts on a few ridings. I have incorporated many of your observations. One riding (Glengarry—Prescott—Russell) flipped from the Liberals to the Tories because of one such email I received. Keep them coming!
All of the other riding changes benefited the Liberals. This projection shows them gaining 18 seats (a net of 17): Ajax—Pickering, Brampton West, Brampton—Springdale, Brant, Etobicoke—Lakeshore, Huron—Bruce, London—Fanshawe, Mississauga South, Mississauga—Brampton South, Mississauga—Erindale, Niagara Falls, Northumberland—Quinte West, Oakville, Ottawa West—Nepean, Ottawa—Orleans, Richmond Hill, Scarborough Southwest and Willowdale. All were too close to call in my last projection. The Tories meanwhile have lost Lambton—Kent—Middlesex, Oak Ridges—Markham and Prince Edward—Hastings to “too close to call”, while the NDP has lost Algoma—Manitoulin, Thunder Bay—Superior North and York South—Weston also to “too close to call”.
Conclusion
Despite a narrow lead in the polls, the Liberals are on the cusp of a majority government. The projection shows them winning 53 seats (with 5 of those too close to call). The are tied with the NDP in one seat (York South—Weston). If they were to win that tied seat, they would get the majority needed of 54. The Liberal maximum however is at just 56- a narrow majority. That's if they win Algoma—Manitoulin and Oak Ridges—Markham which are both too close to call, but are leaning to the NDP and the Tories respectively.
The huge seat change can be attributed to the large number of seats which are within a close range of each other. A small swing in the vote in favour of the Liberals benefited them greatly in the projection. However, the seat change came mostly from previously too close to call races, and therefore did not eat into the core Tory and NDP seats much.
Methodology/disclaimer
I have looked at each riding individually and tried to figure out what its voters might do in the upcoming election. For this, I looked at the riding history, and tried to come to a conclusion as to why certain parties did as well they did, or as poor as they did compared to other years. For certain ridings, I assumed a uniform swing, because I felt its historical voting trends follow the provincial voting trends. For other ridings, I looked at the results of the recent federal election and adjusted the results to reflect the most recent poll. And for other ridings, I could only make estimates, again using past election data. It all depended on the character of the riding.
Of course, there is bound to be some oversights on my part. If you think I have a riding wrong, please let me know. I want to get this as right as possible. The key to making correct projections is not all about the math. Rather, it's about the local conditions. That's why I will be looking at qualitative data just as much as I will be looking at quantitative.
Of course, there is bound to be some oversights on my part. If you think I have a riding wrong, please let me know. I want to get this as right as possible. The key to making correct projections is not all about the math. Rather, it's about the local conditions. That's why I will be looking at qualitative data just as much as I will be looking at quantitative.
I'm not sure why you have York South-Weston as a tie. It went Liberal over NDP by less than 1% in 2007 and the current poll average suggests that NDP support is up about 7% and Liberal support down about 4% since the '07 election. That seat ought to be a pretty easy pick-up even if the NDP has a bad night.
ReplyDeleteBTW: I think with the Tory drop - don't be surprised if Essex goes NDP. You heard it here... :-)
Well, I think there may be a cap on the NDP vote there, as the party only got 40% in the federal election. It's hard to say how much better Ferreira is polling ahead of Mike Sullivan.
ReplyDeleteThe problem for the NDP is that most of their races are with the Liberals, so even if they hold their own, a gaining Liberal Party is bad news. A shrinking Tory party is only good for Essex, maybe Oshawa, maybe Sarnia-Lambton and of course for keeping Welland. Kenora-Rainy River may be an NDP-Tory race as well, but that one is hard to predict.
Now there's a Toronto only poll of 1,000 by Forum that has the Liberals at 39% (down 6% from 2007), NDP at 30% (up 8% from 2007) and PCs flat like a pancake at 24%. I think that with swings of this magnitude the NDP need only hold up a catcher's mitt to grab Davenport and YSW - the question is what are the next opportunities - especially since the Liberals are not collapsing in Toronto to quite the extent they were in the federal election. I think Scarborough-RR has to be considered a total wild card and after that the other longshot potential pickups NDP picks up in Toronto if they actually do achieve a 14 point Liberal to NDP swing would be Scarborough SW, Toronto Centre and York West.
ReplyDeleteOh wow, I will definitely have to take a look at that poll for my next projection. I hope you noticed I gave a bump in the NDP numbers in Scarborough-RR. Obviously the ridings in Scarborough, as well as Don Valley East and maybe even York West are targets for the party
ReplyDeleteI don't quite understand the increase in Liberal support in the Northern Ontario ridings. The one survey that did poll Northern Support had a very small sample size. Dalton McGuinty just said that he will not participate in a Nothern Ontario Debate (Horwath and Hudak both want one), on top of announcing his Northern platform in North Toronto, not to mention the loss of jobs the Liberals have caused Northern Ontario (North Bay Go Train Refurbs, Timmins Xstrata, etc). I think the only riding that will stay Liberal is Sudbury, and even that is a closer race with the NDP that you seem to suggest.
ReplyDeleteI should also mention that Sudbury was the one Northern Ontario riding that people thought would stay Liberal during the Northern Ontario NDP sweep of the 2008 Federal Canadian Election, where Glenn Thibeault beat long-time, and well-liked, Liberal incumbent Diane Marleau (similarities to Bartolucci anyone?)
ReplyDeleteSudbury is a definite possible NDP pick up. Not so sure about the Sault after seeing the federal election. I will have to keep my eyes open to both those seats though. Thanks for your feedback!
ReplyDeleteI think progressive minded citizens have to make their votes count...so be strategic...anyone but a republican tea-party supporting conservative will do for the betterment of our Ontario. The conservatives are creating a two class society evident in the recent analysis of data coming to us from our neighbors to the south. Under a Liberal gov't our educational system has become one of the top in North America, they managed to aid the auto industry's recovery, and continue to lead the nations strongest economy. The conservatives would enact anti-labour legislation and only drive the corporate agenda forward with disregard to the average working and middle class families in our province. The corporations don't need any more power than they already wield in our nation. We need a counter vailing presence to their unilateral position of omnipotence...if your not rich...dont vote against yourself...dont be swindled by the progaganda of channel 15 and fox news north....
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You need to adjust Bruce Grey Owen Sound in some fashion because the Independent candidate Shane Jolley garnered 33% of the vote as the Green last time. I don't think that he will be getting zero.
ReplyDeleteI have made a more recent prediction than this. Please read it.
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